The 19th & Dolores Street Debate

Or could you call it a debacle? Hard to say. We have been trying to get MTA’s Traffic Calming Department to address this situation. Come to find out, we’re a little late to the game. It’s been an ongoing discussion for years – try 2006.

Crossing can be tricky

Regardless, it seems to be coming to a head this week. Mission Local called me for a quote on the intersection just yesterday and ran an article today that has gotten over a hundred responses on SF Gate. It’s a hot topic people! I’m amazed at how we can be so divided: pedestrians should just watch out, driving destroys the planet, bicyclists suck, my baby and i almost got run over. You get the picture.

Below just might be the answer. Alex and Bevan Dufty’s office is trying to find out the status for us, but it seems the Planning Commission has been a bit busy today. Regardless dear  folks, what do YOU think? So far, we’re a fan.

Proposed street scape for 19th & Dolores

About Crystal Vann Wallstrom

Dolores Park Works Co-founder
4 comments
alexch
alexch

Great design. Where's the funding?

alexch
alexch

> The little that I've read about this intersection has brought up the options of a stop sign or light here. The naysayers are against them because they would be an impediment to traffic flow.

Actually, I've heard a different argument against: namely, that stop lights and signs are not as effective as traffic calming measures like the ones in the design. Lights and signs are good for controlling traffic flow, but not great for safety -- it's still possible for a distracted driver to buzz right through them, and lights can even take a driver's eyes off the road, as he glances up instead of ahead. But different colored pavement, different topology, bumpy pavement, etc. are designed to break drivers out of their reverie and make them take notice.

Also, a stop light would be bad since it would mean that half the time we walk up to the intersection, we'd be forced to wait, even if there's no traffic!

- Alex (neighbor at 19th and Oakwood)

Bob Bathrick
Bob Bathrick

I like the look of this design and think it could help to make all users of the intersection a bit more aware to slow down or look around before going through it.

The little that I've read about this intersection has brought up the options of a stop sign or light here. The naysayers are against them because they would be an impediment to traffic flow. Really?? Even if that's true, isn't that what we want?? Don't we want cars to travel more slowly, especially next to such a busy park? Hasn't this been the thrust of the planning department for years - to make it a bit harder for people to be in their cars so they will walk, bike or take public transit whenever possible? As a person who often bikes and walks around town, I know that if I even tangle with a car, I will lose. If the community and the city are really that concerned with getting people out of their cars or reducing the likelihood of accidents between cars and bikes or pedestrians, then I think the plan shown here is the least that could be done to reach that goal.

Bob Bathrick
Bob Bathrick

I like the look of this plan because what it does is tell everyone who goes through that intersection, be it in a car, on a bike or on foot, to be a bit more aware of the goings-on in this intersection. ALL of us should be paying more attention to what we are doing and clearly we all need help and reminders to do so. I think this could do some good. What do others think??

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